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BSD2000:

--- Quote from: GoodVinylLover on February 16, 2012, 08:11:43 AM ---
--- Quote from: GoodVinylLover on February 16, 2012, 08:01:57 AM ---BTW, I have just found out that on the MOV version the channels have been exchanged!  :o How could this be... :-\

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I quote myself because I just realised that the channels haven't been exchanged really, but the "hee-hee-hee" (0:05) sounds on the opposite channel. I don't know why they've done that to the song >:(

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In some instances, if the vinyl is going to be remastered and the original 2" 24-track master tape is available, the engineer may miss some of the production notes and pan the tracks incorrectly when mixing down to a new 2-track master. Or maybe the production notes were missing and the engineer tried to guess how the tracks were paned.

BSD2000:

--- Quote from: GoodVinylLover on February 16, 2012, 08:01:57 AM ---Good idea  ;)

Tell me... what about Music On Vinyl? I have just recorded 2 needledrops:

Billie Jean (Thriller 1982 Holland edition) [DR16]
VS
Billie Jean (Thriller 2009 Music On Vinyl re-issue) [DR12]

BTW, I have just found out that on the MOV version the channels have been exchanged!  :o How could this be... :-\

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Welcome to the Forum!

There is a big difference between those two samples. The MOV sample sounds very dynamic, with good separation of the instruments, but it's hard to tell if the audio has been 'enhanced' by MOV during the remastering since the Holland pressing sounds a bit more natural in the tonal balance and dynamics.

I don't have an original pressing to compare to since the three copies I have are all '25th anniversary' reissues. I'll have to record a sample and see which channel the 'hee-hee-hee' is panned to.  :)

lshin80:
http://www.musicangle.com/album.php?id=903
Why using a digital master (even if good) if you can use a perfect analogue master?  ???
This make me feel doubtful about the others MOV reissues...  :-\

GoodVinylLover:

--- Quote from: BSD2000 on February 16, 2012, 11:43:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: GoodVinylLover on February 16, 2012, 08:01:57 AM ---Good idea  ;)

Tell me... what about Music On Vinyl? I have just recorded 2 needledrops:

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 [DR16]
VS
Your browser does not support HTML5 audio tags. Better try a new one like Firefox or Opera
 [DR12]

BTW, I have just found out that on the MOV version the channels have been exchanged!  :o How could this be... :-\

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Welcome to the Forum!

There is a big difference between those two samples. The MOV sample sounds very dynamic, with good separation of the instruments, but it's hard to tell if the audio has been 'enhanced' by MOV during the remastering since the Holland pressing sounds a bit more natural in the tonal balance and dynamics.

I don't have an original pressing to compare to since the three copies I have are all '25th anniversary' reissues. I'll have to record a sample and see which channel the 'hee-hee-hee' is panned to.  :)

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I think the "hee-hee-hee" was originally located on the right channel. I recorded 2 more needle drops of this song:

Billie Jean (Thriller 1982 Japan pressing)
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Billie Jean (2008 Thriller 25)
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Thanks for the welcome  8)

BSD2000:

--- Quote from: GoodVinylLover on February 17, 2012, 11:30:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: BSD2000 on February 16, 2012, 11:43:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: GoodVinylLover on February 16, 2012, 08:01:57 AM ---Good idea  ;)

Tell me... what about Music On Vinyl? I have just recorded 2 needledrops:

Billie Jean (Thriller 1982 Holland edition) [DR16]
VS
Billie Jean (Thriller 2009 Music On Vinyl re-issue) [DR12]

BTW, I have just found out that on the MOV version the channels have been exchanged!  :o How could this be... :-\

--- End quote ---

Welcome to the Forum!

There is a big difference between those two samples. The MOV sample sounds very dynamic, with good separation of the instruments, but it's hard to tell if the audio has been 'enhanced' by MOV during the remastering since the Holland pressing sounds a bit more natural in the tonal balance and dynamics.

I don't have an original pressing to compare to since the three copies I have are all '25th anniversary' reissues. I'll have to record a sample and see which channel the 'hee-hee-hee' is panned to.  :)

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I think the "hee-hee-hee" was originally located on the right channel. I recorded 2 more needle drops of this song:

Billie Jean (Thriller 1982 Japan pressing)
http://belenhernandez.com/needledrops/BillieJean1982Japan.mp3

Billie Jean (2008 Thriller 25)
http://belenhernandez.com/needledrops/BillieJean2008Thriller25.mp3

Thanks for the welcome  8)

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I don't feel so bad. My 25th anniversary pressing of Thriller has similar sibilance problems like yours. I'll have to keep my eye out for an original pressing.

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