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Music => Vinyl Grooves => Topic started by: lshin80 on May 10, 2012, 07:04:23 AM

Title: What Beatles pressings?
Post by: lshin80 on May 10, 2012, 07:04:23 AM
I'm so ashamed to confess that I've got no Beatles LP's, except the red and  blue albums.  :'(
I need to get some of their LP's and I was wondering what pressings should I look for to get decent sound quality and reasonable prices. I'm interested in all their albums from Help! and onward. Definitely European / English versions for Help!, Rubber Soul and Revolver, while for Sgt. Pepper and following LP's both U.S. and European versions. Mobile Fidelity reissues are out of my budget. I heard that the Capitol purple label reissues from the late 70's are quite nice with good dynamics.
Any suggestions?
Title: Re: What Beatles pressings?
Post by: BSD2000 on September 27, 2012, 04:00:22 PM
The new EMI pressings of the Beatles catalog look interesting:

"These titles update the Beatles classic albums, which have continued to sell strongly and attract new generations of fans long after the quartet disbanded in 1970. For this reissue, individual titles were sourced from the original master tapes. Then each title was copied into 24-bit/192 kHz files and cut to lacquer at Abbey Road Studios. It was a painstaking process with maximum attention paid to every detail."

The price is set at $22.98 each, except the 'White Album' and 'Past Masters', which will be $34.98.

Acoustic Sounds announced a release date of November 13th. (http://store.acousticsounds.com/index.cfm?get=results&artistID=3059&status=Pre+Order&CategoryID=5&LabelID=553)

I wonder where EMI will have the vinyl pressed at?
Title: Re: What Beatles pressings?
Post by: lshin80 on September 28, 2012, 06:59:15 AM
Then each title was copied into 24-bit/192 kHz files and cut to lacquer at Abbey Road Studios.
>:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: What Beatles pressings?
Post by: lshin80 on November 25, 2012, 11:47:57 AM
Even worse:

The 24/192 transfers were done to produce an archival copy of the tapes and then those files were reduced to 24/44.1 kHz files for final mastering...The digital files were cut to lacquers at Abbey Road Studios. Engineer Sean Magee cut the LPs in chronological release order. He used the original 24-bit remasters rather than the 16-bit versions that were required for CD production. It was decided to use the remasters that had not undergone "limiting," a procedure to increase the sound level. (From acousticsounds.com)

Oh, shure: you want to keep high quality and you reduce to 44.1 kHz???   ???  :-X  :'(
Title: Re: What Beatles pressings?
Post by: BSD2000 on December 03, 2012, 05:45:53 PM
Wow, that's ridiculous.  :(

They should have just stopped at a local store and bought CD copies, dropped it off at Abbey Road studios and cut the lacquer with that.

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The absolute minimum resolution for digital sources should be 96K/24bit. I would like to see the industry adopt DSD recording (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital) for archiving and mastering, 2.8Mhz or even 5.6Mhz. Original master tapes are getting older and more brittle by the day and the industry better start getting serious about archiving original master tapes at the highest quality digital format available. DSD seems to offer the best quality so far, even better than 192K/24bit and it should be the new studio standard for masters and archiving.
Title: Re: What Beatles pressings?
Post by: lshin80 on December 05, 2012, 07:39:14 AM
Theres is something even better: 352 kHz DXD. Give a look here on the "about" page:
http://www.2l.no/ (http://www.2l.no/)
Title: Re: What Beatles pressings?
Post by: BSD2000 on December 05, 2012, 06:59:30 PM
From Michael Fremer @ Analog Planet:

"I spoke today with Sean Magee about the just released Beatles LP box set. Magee's resume is impressive. He's cut both lacquers and DMM and does a great deal of AAA cutting for Pure Pleasure among other labels. Magee produced the lacquers from which the LPs were sourced. The first interesting thing I learned was that the lacquers were cut from 44.1k/24 bit masters not 96K/24 bit masters as I'd originally been told.

The 192/24 bit transfers were done flat to produce an archival copy of the tapes and then those files were reduced to 44.1k/24 bit files for final mastering. The final EQ masters were then truncated to 16 bits for the CD box set..."


You can listen to the 20 minute interview here:
http://www.analogplanet.com/content/abbey-road-studios-sean-magee-talks-about-mastering-beatles-lp-box (http://www.analogplanet.com/content/abbey-road-studios-sean-magee-talks-about-mastering-beatles-lp-box)